Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary
Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary
The longest-running independent healthcare podcast, Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary has supplied 17 years of unfiltered truth about American healthcare. A 30-year brain cancer survivor, Matthew built the young adult cancer movement from scratch. Now he channels patient rage into political power, featuring on the air battle-scarred survivors, exhausted caregivers, and the rare insider brave enough to name what's killing us. It’s real stories from real people who refuse to accept that healthcare has to hurt this much. New listeners come for the truth. They stay because finally someone's saying what they've been screaming.
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Recent Episodes

Coding the Invisible: Emily Mendenhall
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June 22, 2026

Coding the Invisible: Emily Mendenhall

In 2020, Emily Mendenhall drove from Washington, DC to Okoboji, Iowa, a town of 800 that swells to 200,000 every summer, and walked into a pandemic that looked nothing like the one dominating national headlines. Inside gas stations and bars, masks marked you as an outsider. In one stop, a man told her family they would not be served if they kept theirs on. Her 6 year old daughter cried, confused. Mendenhall, a medical anthropologist at Georgetown University, did what she always does. She started
Jace Beats Cancer
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June 15, 2026

Jace Beats Cancer

At 25, Jace Yawnick was building a career in health and wellness sales, chasing growth, status, and the usual young adult fantasy of getting somewhere fast. Then his body stopped cooperating. Fatigue turned into chemotherapy. The diagnosis was primary mediastinal B cell non Hodgkin lymphoma, and the rest of his life split into before and after. Now in remission, he talks about cancer the way people actually live it, not the way nonprofits package it. He gets into survivorship, mental health, you
Standard Deviation S2 E4: The Invisible Load
June 10, 2026

Standard Deviation S2 E4: The Invisible Load

At 20 years old, newly arrived from Puerto Rico and trying to build a future in science, Benjamin Suarez Jimenez found himself sitting in front of two senior faculty members accused of plagiarism. He knew the material. He had done the work. His mistake came from failing to cite class notes during an exam because nobody had told him that was expected. In a matter of minutes, he watched what felt like his entire career flash before him. On this episode of Standard Deviation, host Oliver Bogler exa

Recent Blog Posts

Out of Patients EP449: Coding the Invisible: Emily Mendenhall
June 23, 2026

Out of Patients EP449: Coding the Invisible: Emily Mendenhall

🚨 NEW EPISODE 🚨YOUR SUFFERING CANNOT BE CODED OR BILLED. THE SYSTEM MOVES ON.Emily Mendenhall is a medical anthropologist at Georgetown who studies what she calls coding the invisible. She examines what happens when people get sick in ways the s…
Out of Patients EP447: Taco Thursday Meets Broken Healthcare: Dr. Sarah Matt
June 11, 2026

Out of Patients EP447: Taco Thursday Meets Broken Healthcare: Dr. Sarah Matt

Dr. Sarah Matt heard a human cough at 4am in a dairy barn and thought she was about to die. It was a sheep. That moment killed her plan to become a vet and pushed her into medicine, then surgery, then straight into the machine that runs healthcare.&…
Out of Patients EP445: Fatal to Relentless: Kathy Giusti
May 26, 2026

Out of Patients EP445: Fatal to Relentless: Kathy Giusti

In 1996, Kathy Giusti sat on the floor of a Borders bookstore reading Harrison’s like her life depended on it. It did. She was 37, staring at a 3 year prognosis for multiple myeloma, with an 18 month old at home and a system that offered confu…

About the Host

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Matthew Zachary

Producer

Matthew Zachary invented healthcare podcasting before podcasting was a thing. In 2007, fresh off building Stupid Cancer, he grabbed a mic, launched The Stupid Cancer Show and started broadcasting patient stories on internet talk radio when everyone else was still writing blogs.

17 years and 400+ episodes later, Out of Patients is still the most unfiltered healthcare show anywhere.

Matthew doesn't do softball interviews. Brain cancer at 21 taught him that time is finite and bullshit is expensive. He gets guests to say things they'd never tell Congress. CEOs admit what's broken. Patients name what actually hurts. Scientists explain what industry doesn't want you to know. The conversations other shows won't touch because of sponsor concerns or political correctness.

What makes him different: He's been on both sides of the mic. Featured in documentaries, testified before Congress, keynoted hundreds of conferences.

But he's also been the guy puking from radiation, fighting insurance denials, and watching friends die from paperwork.

That dual perspective creates interviews you won't hear anywhere else. He knows which questions make power squirm because he's asked them from hospital beds and boardrooms both.

No pre-approved questions. No PR handlers. No seven-minute segments. Just real conversations with people brave enough to tell the truth about healthcare. After 17 years, Matthew's still the guy Mark Cuban reposts when he wants to understand what patients actually think.

Still the show where whistleblowers go first. Still asking the questions that make everyone uncomfortable.

Because comfortable conversations don't fix broken systems.