Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary
Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary
Matthew Zachary is the healthcare policy love child of Jon Stewart, Howard Stern, Thomas Paine, Ralph Nader, and Jerry Seinfeld. He has 19 years of receipts to prove it. Editorially independent. Answerable to no one. What started as The Stupid Cancer Show in 2007 became Out of Patients. The first online health podcast in America, predating the medium itself. Zachary survived brain cancer at 21, built the young adult cancer movement from scratch, and spent two decades channeling patient rage into something the system never saw coming. Now he is marching into Washington. Out of Patients goes where the comfortable shows will not. Politics. Healthcare policy. Economics. Institutional accountability. Consumer protection. The forces shaping what 330 million Americans can access, afford, and survive. Battle-scarred patients. Exhausted caregivers. Rare insiders brave enough to name what is killing us. And the occasional elected official about to find out what an organized patient constituency actually looks like. This is the show that started the conversation America is still not ready to finish.
March 18, 2025

HPV, Anal Cancer, and the Fabulous Ms. Lillian Kreppel

HPV, Anal Cancer, and the Fabulous Ms. Lillian Kreppel

EPISODE DESCRIPTION

Lillian Kreppel doesn’t hold back. A seven-year anal cancer survivor and co-founder of the HPV Cancers Alliance, she has made it her mission to challenge stigma, fight misinformation, and push for better awareness of HPV-related cancers. In this episode, she sits down with Matthew Zachary to talk about her journey from high-powered sales to full-time advocacy, the absurd misconceptions surrounding HPV, and why more doctors should be doing rectal exams—but aren’t. With her signature humor and relentless drive, Lillian shares how she turned her diagnosis into a movement, what it takes to make people uncomfortable for the right reasons, and why she refuses to stop talking about the HPV vaccine. It’s an eye-opening, unfiltered, and surprisingly hilarious conversation about a serious issue too many people ignore.

RELATED LINKSHPV Cancers Alliance: https://hpvca.org/Lillian's Story (MSKCC): https://www.mskcc.org/experience/hear-from-patients/lillianInterview on HPVWorld: https://www.hpvworld.com/articles/anal-cancer-and-hpv-a-history-of-awareness-and-stigma-interview-with-lillian-kreppel/Speaking With Lillian Kreppel (Ask About HPV): https://www.askabouthpv.org/stories/speaking-with-lillian-kreppel-co-founder-of-the-hpv-cancers-allianceEuropean Cancer Organization Feature: https://www.europeancancer.org/content/lillian-kreppel.htmlAnal Cancer Survivor Feature (Patient Resource):https://www.patientresource.com/Anal_Cancer_Survivor_Lillian_Kreppel


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EPISODE DESCRIPTION

Lillian Kreppel doesn’t hold back. A seven-year anal cancer survivor and co-founder of the HPV Cancers Alliance, she has made it her mission to challenge stigma, fight misinformation, and push for better awareness of HPV-related cancers. In this episode, she sits down with Matthew Zachary to talk about her journey from high-powered sales to full-time advocacy, the absurd misconceptions surrounding HPV, and why more doctors should be doing rectal exams—but aren’t. With her signature humor and relentless drive, Lillian shares how she turned her diagnosis into a movement, what it takes to make people uncomfortable for the right reasons, and why she refuses to stop talking about the HPV vaccine. It’s an eye-opening, unfiltered, and surprisingly hilarious conversation about a serious issue too many people ignore.

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FEEDBACK

Like this episode? Rate and review Out of Patients on your favorite podcast platform. For guest suggestions or sponsorship inquiries, email podcast@matthewzachary.com.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.