Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary
Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary
Matthew Zachary is the healthcare policy love child of Jon Stewart, Howard Stern, Thomas Paine, Ralph Nader, and Jerry Seinfeld. He has 19 years of receipts to prove it. Editorially independent. Answerable to no one. What started as The Stupid Cancer Show in 2007 became Out of Patients. The first online health podcast in America, predating the medium itself. Zachary survived brain cancer at 21, built the young adult cancer movement from scratch, and spent two decades channeling patient rage into something the system never saw coming. Now he is marching into Washington. Out of Patients goes where the comfortable shows will not. Politics. Healthcare policy. Economics. Institutional accountability. Consumer protection. The forces shaping what 330 million Americans can access, afford, and survive. Battle-scarred patients. Exhausted caregivers. Rare insiders brave enough to name what is killing us. And the occasional elected official about to find out what an organized patient constituency actually looks like. This is the show that started the conversation America is still not ready to finish.
July 12, 2022

Take a Chill Pill! (If It’s Covered by Insurance)

Take a Chill Pill! (If It’s Covered by Insurance)

On the show today, I'm thrilled to welcome in-studio Michelle Juhanson, VP, Chief of Staff II at Magellan Rx Management. First off, unlike Lethal Weapon 2 and Godfather 2, her role as "Chief Of Staff II" is not a sequel. Second, her company is a PBM, which, for the cheap seats in the back, stands for "Pharmacy Benefit Management Company." What does that mean? These folks work tirelessly behind the scenes, trench-warfare-style, to make sure the right medication gets to the right patient at the right time while dealing with bureaucratic nonsense from health systems, insurance companies, and related dumbfuckery. What's super cool about Michelle is that she's a multilingual, multicultural, global citizen, which means she has a perspective on the over/under of health systems outside the US. As par for the course, prepare yourself for all the 80s pop culture references you can muster and a trip down IMDB lane. Oh, and did I also mention she's a young adult cancer survivor? Enjoy the show.

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On the show today, I'm thrilled to welcome in-studio Michelle Juhanson, VP, Chief of Staff II at Magellan Rx Management. First off, unlike Lethal Weapon 2 and Godfather 2, her role as "Chief Of Staff II" is not a sequel. Second, her company is a PBM, which, for the cheap seats in the back, stands for "Pharmacy Benefit Management Company." What does that mean? These folks work tirelessly behind the scenes, trench-warfare-style, to make sure the right medication gets to the right patient at the right time while dealing with bureaucratic nonsense from health systems, insurance companies, and related dumbfuckery. What's super cool about Michelle is that she's a multilingual, multicultural, global citizen, which means she has a perspective on the over/under of health systems outside the US. As par for the course, prepare yourself for all the 80s pop culture references you can muster and a trip down IMDB lane. Oh, and did I also mention she's a young adult cancer survivor? Enjoy the show.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.