Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary
Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary
Matthew Zachary is the healthcare policy love child of Jon Stewart, Howard Stern, Thomas Paine, Ralph Nader, and Jerry Seinfeld. He has 19 years of receipts to prove it. Editorially independent. Answerable to no one. What started as The Stupid Cancer Show in 2007 became Out of Patients. The first online health podcast in America, predating the medium itself. Zachary survived brain cancer at 21, built the young adult cancer movement from scratch, and spent two decades channeling patient rage into something the system never saw coming. Now he is marching into Washington. Out of Patients goes where the comfortable shows will not. Politics. Healthcare policy. Economics. Institutional accountability. Consumer protection. The forces shaping what 330 million Americans can access, afford, and survive. Battle-scarred patients. Exhausted caregivers. Rare insiders brave enough to name what is killing us. And the occasional elected official about to find out what an organized patient constituency actually looks like. This is the show that started the conversation America is still not ready to finish.
July 21, 2020

You’ll Pay for This: Julie Croner on the Value of the Patient Experience

You’ll Pay for This: Julie Croner on the Value of the Patient Experience

On today's show, we welcome Julie Croner, Vice President of the Patient Leader Network at WEGO Health. Julie is a rare disease activist who has been educating and empowering patients for more than a decade with tools to better advocate for themselves and others. She and I met a while ago at one of those spectacularly stupid Pharma conferences where tokenism reigns supreme. These are the conferences where they ask patients to share their story FOR FREE—that's right, NO compensation for time or value, because that's their way. At the time, I was one of those suckers who did just that: Gave away the store that was my patient experience for free so the private sector could go off and make a fortune off the disenfranchised backs of patients. The upside? I got to meet Julie Croner. Julie knew better, so she went ahead and took up the charge at WEGO Health, which we'll learn about on the show. Tangential to this episode, you may want to consider scrolling back in my feed and checking out Episode 14 called "Pay Your Fucking Patients." You can tell this is a subject that really pisses me off, which is why – again – someone like Julie is the perfect person to chat with about all the things. Enjoy my talk with Julie Croner. WEGO Health: https://www.wegohealth.com. Episode 14: Pay the Patients!




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On today's show, we welcome Julie Croner, Vice President of the Patient Leader Network at WEGO Health. Julie is a rare disease activist who has been educating and empowering patients for more than a decade with tools to better advocate for themselves and others. She and I met a while ago at one of those spectacularly stupid Pharma conferences where tokenism reigns supreme. These are the conferences where they ask patients to share their story FOR FREE—that's right, NO compensation for time or value, because that's their way. At the time, I was one of those suckers who did just that: Gave away the store that was my patient experience for free so the private sector could go off and make a fortune off the disenfranchised backs of patients. The upside? I got to meet Julie Croner. Julie knew better, so she went ahead and took up the charge at WEGO Health, which we'll learn about on the show. Tangential to this episode, you may want to consider scrolling back in my feed and checking out Episode 14 called "Pay Your Fucking Patients." You can tell this is a subject that really pisses me off, which is why – again – someone like Julie is the perfect person to chat with about all the things. Enjoy my talk with Julie Croner. WEGO Health: https://www.wegohealth.com. Episode 14: Pay the Patients!


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